Are You Humping Your Way to an Early Grave – HIV in Thailand

Normally we prefer to focus on positive information regarding Thailand, but this is one article every person visiting Thailand should read.  Thailand is an amazing place with some of the most beautiful women in the world who are ready to treat you like a king.

However, there are some risks involved when dealing with the women in Thailand.  This article talks about one of those risks, HIV in Thailand.

We will answer three common questions regarding HIV in Thailand:

1- How prevalent is HIV in Thailand?

2- If exposed, how likely is it that you’ll be infected?

3- How can you protect yourself?

1- How Prevalent is HIV in Thailand?

For this question we’ll start with statistics:

Thailand Statistics
Estimated total population in 2011                                                 66,720,153
Estimated number of people living with HIV, end of 2009               530,000
Adults living with HIV (15+)                                                             520,000
Women living with HIV (15+)                                                           210,000
Estimated adult (15-49) HIV prevalence                                           1.3%

Looking at the above numbers reported by: *UNAIDS, there is a 1.3% chance of sleeping with someone who has HIV in Thailand.

If you only prefer women (no men or lady boys) this greatly reduces your chance to 0.8%.  (1 out of every 114 women.)

Note: There are approximately 24 million adult females in Thailand.

As with all statistics, these numbers are quite deceptive and are based off of random choice from the entire adult female Thai population.  

But the women you have sex with in Thailand won’t be of random choice statistics such as these.

There are a few things you need to know about the women of Thailand:
1- Thai women either prefer Foreigners or they prefer Thai men. They won’t date both types of men.
2- Most of the prostitution in Thailand are among the Thai population, not the foreigners.
3- Thai men are notorious for refusing you use condoms. Because of this, the HIV rate is much higher in Thai women that are promiscuous with Thai men.

It is because of this the chance of a Thai man sleeping with a women who has HIV is drastically higher than a foreigner.

However, if you prefer the dirties kinds of whores who don’t discriminate among clients, your risks will be quite a bit higher.

Why is this?

In general, sex workers have relatively high numbers of sexual partners.

This in itself does not necessarily increase their likelihood of becoming infected with HIV – if they use condoms consistently and correctly then they will probably be protected no matter how many people they have sex with.

However, many clients offer to pay double or triple the price to have sex without a condom.  Depending on the woman, this may be an offer too good to refuse…

Although we can only estimate on the HIV rate in Thailand among Thai women, our research leads us to this:

– If you only sleep with sex workers, the chance of the woman having HIV is 1 out of 75

– If you only sleep with promiscuous good girls who only prefer foreigners, the chance of the woman having HIV is 1 out of 150

– If you only sleep with good girls where you have to put in your time, the chance of the woman having HIV is 1 out of 300

2- If Exposed, How Likely is it That You’ll Be Infected?

This has been a talked about subject in Thailand.  What if the condom breaks?  What if you fuck up and don’t wear one?  How worried should you be?

Judging by the above mathematical formula you chose to follow (it is wises to play it safe), you have a 1.3%, .6%, or a 0.3% chance that your Thai lady is infected.  However, if she is infected, what are the odds that you caught it.

In studies done on couples where one partner was HIV-positive and the other wasn’t, the infection rate was 10-14% per year for couples who did not use condoms at all.

Although there are so many variables:
-Viral load of the infected person.  (The amount of virus in his/her blood.)

-Whether the infectee is male or female. (It’s easier for a woman to catch HIV from a man than vice versa.)

-Vaginal or anal sex?  Obviously the risk is higher with anal sex.

-Other STDs? Having some other types of STDs can make you more susceptible to HIV.

-How much CCL3L1 (a gene that helps “fight” HIV) do you have?

Due to so many variables, there is no exact answer.  However it has been estimated that the chances of getting HIV after one night are 1 in 500 without a condom.  This means if you have sex with an HIV-positive partner 500 times without using condoms, your odds can escalate to 1 in 1.  (This is why it is very important to test your girlfriends.)

Taking the answers from questions one and two, you have around a 1 in 75 and 1 in 500 chance of contracting HIV from a woman in Thailand when no condom is used.

As a man having sex vaginal sex with a woman, you have an estimated .004% (1 in 25,000) chance to contract HIV if no condom is used each time you have sex random Thai woman.

Be warned though, don’t play the odds.  Just as some people are luckier than others, there have been more than a few cases where HIV is caught after having unprotected sex only once.

3- How Can You Protect Yourself?

We’re not going to say that bullshit you hear in school, “Abstinence is the only 100% guarantee….”

Fuck that!

Really, there are two good ways to protect yourself from HIV and other STD’s whether in Thailand or not:

1- Wrap it Up
Don’t care how hot she is or how clean she looks.  Wear a condom.  All it takes is one idiot before you to have slipped off the condom while fucking her.  She could then be an infected walking death trap for any man.

Note on Lubrication:  You want to use water based lubrication like KY which is designed for sex instead of oil based lubricants (Baby Oil).  Oil based lubrication wears down the condom making it weaker and more likely to break.

Note on Thai Condoms:  The condoms you buy in Thailand suck!  They are small and pour quality.  Be sure to bring some from your home country.  If you’re staying in Thailand a long time, buy them online or have a friend mail quality condoms to you.  We recommend Trojans.

2- Test Her…Twice
Every man knows sex feels better without a condom.  If you’re staying in Thailand for a while and find a girl you want to keep, make sure you take her to the hospital and test her for STD’s.  The cost is 1,800 baht at most hospitals.

For those of you who are extra careful.  Don’t stop wearing a condom until you test her two months after you are with her.  HIV does not show up in the blood stream until around two months after it has been contracted.

And as method above, if your “girlfriend” is HIV positive and you have sex with her 500 times unprotected, you are very likely to contract it.

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Although every man should be aware of the risks, don’t stress too much about this when you’re in Thailand.  Between awareness and proper condom use, you’ll be fine.

Posted on Gods of Thailand May 21, 2011 in ,

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19 comments
  • Alex says:

    “However it has been estimated that the chances of getting HIV after one night are 1 in 500 without a condom. This means if you have sex with an HIV-positive partner 500 times without using condoms, your odds can escalate to 1 in 1.”

    Actually, the odds would be 63.25% (1 to 1.6) that you would become HIV positive after 500 unprotected sessions. But we get the point.

  • Ea says:

    Hey, i am in bangkok for a week and i picked up a girl from a strip club in nana plaza, the condom broke while having sex, i am kind of worried …whats advised in such a situation? Are nana plaza girls known for hiv? Or how should i check and will it show?

  • rohit says:

    Hii,
    If the report of ”check blood” comes negative of my partner ,then is it safe to perform unprotected sex with her.
    I heard dat even after (-)ve report. Viruses can’t identified to 2 months forward

  • Jamea says:

    Hey community
    Just wondering if there is an age restriction for soapy or oil massages with happy endings ? Like will they check I’d ?
    Also what about night clubs? How strict are they for aussies? I’m 19 but my 17 year old friend was curious .

    Ps this is for Patong in Phuket

    • Nope. There is no age restrictions for soapies or any other types of “massages” in Thailand. They only time I’ve ever been carded in Thailand, is at a few clubs in Bangkok like Route 66, Levels, and Funky Villa.

  • Wang says:

    How can i ask my partner or the girlfriend to go for a test if she is just met?

  • Luis says:

    Dear Seven,

    First of all, thank you for your very interesting blog. I am new in Thailand (arrived this week and I willmstay for 3 or 4 years normally). My employer was sooooo kind to send me there 🙂

    Question : what do you thing abour oral sex without condom? Is it that dangerous?

    Once I lived in west africa, I was very strict with it. For instance I waited to the result of the test of my girl friend to permit a “natural” blowjob (even if it sucks with condom)…

    Yesterday I went to annie’s massage and the nice lady gave me a blowjob without condom. I was not looking for it (not the blowjob but the “natural” way) but when her tongue touched me it was too good and too late.

    What is your point of view about it?

    Thank you

    • Hey Luis,

      Damn, sounds like you have the perfect job. Not bad being sent to Thailand for a few years and be paid at the same time.

      Regarding Oral Sex without a condom. This comes down to the individual. Nearly everyone I know, include myself, go without. (Whats the point of a blowjob with a condom. I’d rather a hand job if that’s the case.)

      There’s a very minor chance of you catching something, but I haven’t personally heard of a guy catching chlamydia or gonorrhea this way. (Which by the way can be cleared up in a couple days with some antibiotics)

      When it comes to personal safely like this, it’s not my place to advise on the right course of action. Just share my experiences and thoughts.

      Hope this helps,
      -Seven

  • Mike says:

    how do you protect yourself against other STD’s like herpes, chlamydia and gonorrhea?

    • Condoms protect you from Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. Condoms “mostly” protect you from herpes. But fortunately, herpes is not one of the main diseases to concern yourself about in Thailand.

      The most common one for men to get is Chlamydia / Gonorrhea. But lucky for us, that can be cleared up in 3 days with antibiotics

  • Sam says:

    is there a bigger chance to get disease if the woman have her menstruation?
    i normally dont have sex with the girl if she have menstruation.
    but i tried few times having sex with girl who had menstruation.
    and even when i used condom then i notice some of the blood looks like it has passed inside the condom from the open side of the condom.

    so is it still a risk to get disease even u use condom if the girl have a menstruation because the blood might still enter the condom?

  • lateen says:

    I hope to have a good time in Thailand

  • Chris Hamilton says:

    So you’re talking a little over 50 bucks to test and see that she doesn’t have HIV? That’s a no-brainer. I had a gf in Monterrey Mexico a few years back and we got tested first. We didn’t even have to go to a hospital there, we were able to just go to a walk in clinic for it.
    Now how about if you want something a little more comprehensive than just a standard HIV test? Because I can honestly do without any Hep-C, nasty looking gential warts or any other STDs for that matter. I’ve made it this far and managed to keep it clean, no sense changing that now. Are more comprehensive tests available at essentially any hospital too? If so any idea how much those might cost?

    • Yep, 50 dollars well spent.

      Note, most of the hospitals here are just as good as those in Europe or in the United States…and at a fraction of the cost.

      For example, in Thailand you can get an X-Ray for under $10. The cost in America is $120 with health insurance…

    • Ragnar says:

      1800 THB is still expensive compared to free checkup back home. Still have to do it though if you are not a fan of the rubber.
      Thanks for the article.

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